Wednesday, March 14, 2012

AFA's Demands. EHDI's Response.

One other letter was brought to my attention just now and due to the nature of recent debates on AFA (Audism Free America) and EHDI (Early Hearing Detection & Intervention) I thought I'd share this one with you. This one was written some time in Janyary 2012 and is older than the earlier one I posted. That is what makes it even more interesting. Before I published this one I asked Karl White for permission to share it with you and he did not have a problem with that.

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Dear AFA Representatives:

Thank you for your letter of January 3, 2012. We are happy to meet with you to discuss ways of improving Early Hearing Detection and Intervention (EHDI) programs. The National EHDI Meeting is a busy time for the three of us and there is not a time on Sunday, Monday or Tuesday when all three of us are available for an hour. Therefore we invite you to meet with us on Saturday afternoon from 4-5 PM. Given that the pre-sessions for the Meeting start on Sunday morning and there are several affiliated meetings on Saturday, many people are planning on arriving at the hotel on Saturday afternoon, so we thought that might be a convenient time. If it would be better for you to meet later Saturday evening (perhaps from 7:30-8:30 PM), we could also do that.

To make the meeting as productive as possible, I thought it would be useful to provide some initial feedback to your demands.

First, it is important to clarify that EHDI is not an organization or program within any Federal agency. The Maternal and Child Health Bureau (MCHB) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) are federal agencies with the US Department of Health and Human Services that administer competitively award grants, contracts, and cooperative agreements. A small part of each agency’s work is to promote Early Hearing Detection and Intervention (EHDI) programs. Competitive awards have been made in the past by each agency to departments of health, universities, associations, and others to assist with the development, operation, and improvement of EHDI programs. Every state and territory has organized one or more program(s) to assist with the provision of newborn hearing screening, diagnosis, intervention, family support, and health care programs. Some of these programs are assisted with federal money, but most of the financial resources for these programs come from other sources (e.g., school districts, hospitals, insurance proceeds, private pay, charitable gifts, etc.). The people who are providing services to children and families in all of these areas work under a variety of circumstances -- including state employees, private practitioners, school districts, private organizations, volunteers, etc. NCHAM is one of the grantees and receives funding from MCHB to serve as the National Technical Assistance Resource Center for EHDI Programs.

Now that you understand that EHDI is not an organization or agency that establishes requirements for how various activities are done, and that the vast majority of funding for EHDI programs come from non-federal sources, you can see that we are not in a position to comply with your demands. I will however, comment briefly on each one (quoted below from your letter) to begin a conversation of how we might be able to work cooperatively to continue to improve EHDI programs.

Demand #1: Equitable funding. AFA calls upon EHDI, CDC, NIH, and US Dept of Education to address the historical and contemporary inequality of funding by increasing funds for bilingual (ASL and English) materials, early educational programs, Deaf mentoring programs, and services to parents. AFA cannot condone funding of any oral/aural only program as in compliance with a Deaf child’s human right to sign language, and governmental bodies such as EHDI that have professed a mission of ‘appropriate’ intervention services have, in practice, promoted services which focus almost exclusively on speech, medical and audiological services. Equitable funding should be transparent. (Relates, in part, to EHDI goal #3. Please note also that nowhere in the 2012 Conference is there a presentation which has ASL in the title).

Funding administered by MCHB and CDC is competitively awarded based on federal procurement regulations and Congressional direction. All funding opportunities are announced in advance through established sources such as www.grants.gov. Proposals from AFA or any other organization that meets the eligibility requirements for the various funding programs and is interested in improving EHDI programs are accepted. All proposals are objectively evaluated by a panel of experts who affirm they do not have any conflict of interest with the applicant.. Please note that Congress limits the authority of CDC for funding agreements for State agencies. Almost all federal funding that has been focused on improving EHDI programs over the past 10 years has gone to State Departments of Health or Universities and I know of no grants, cooperative agreements, or contracts from the MCHB or CDC EHDI programs that have gone to support an "oral/aural-only program." With respect to your claim that there are no presentations at the 2012 National Meeting with ASL in the title, please note the following sessions:

Topical Session 4: Jeffersonian Room: 'Massachusetts Family Sign Language Program: A Model for Effective Family-Centered Sign Language Instruction'

Topical Session 6: Frisco Room, 'Spoken English and American Sign Language: The Best of Both Worlds.'

More importantly however, almost all of the break-out sessions are organized based on proposals for abstracts submitted by people who plan to attend the conference. If you think there should be more sessions about ASL in the future, it would be good for you to encourage people to submit such proposals. All proposals are reviewed by a committee of experts (including people from the Deaf community) and approximately 85% of submitted proposals were accepted this year.


Demand #2: Early Healthy Deaf Identification. AFA calls upon EHDI to shift its approach to Deaf infants and their families from a pathological/medical bias to a positive/culturally-additive model in identification. To ensure this, parents need to be informed at the time of identification that American Sign Language is a linguistic human right for a Deaf child and Deaf/ASL early service providers are trained to work with them. In addition, EHDI should implement the labeling/way of thinking that was published in EHDI's 2011 Resource book in the chapter on Partnerships with the Deaf Community. (Relates to EHDI’s overall mission as well as Goals #2 and #3).


As noted above, there is no central control of the EHDI programs that are operated by states and territories, nor of the hospitals, health care providers, and schools that provide services to children who are deaf or hard of hearing and their families. MCHB, CDC, and NCHAM have all worked to encourage all programs and people involved in EHDI to ensure that families are provided with complete and objective information, that family choice is supported, and that all services are provided in a way that is culturally appropriate and respectful. I agree that every family with a child who is deaf or hard of hearing should know that ASL is an appropriate option for communicating with their child. EHDI programs have been and will continue to be encouraged to make such information available to families.


Dedmand #3: Stakeholders in Leadership Positions. AFA calls upon EHDI to hire Deaf people who use and support ASL/Deaf Culture in leadership roles at national and state levels. (Relates to EHDI’s National Goal #7)

I believe both MCHB and CDC will continue to encourage all programs who receive competitively awarded federal funding to make concerted efforts to hire qualified Deaf people who use and support ASL/Deaf Culture and others who have disabilities or who come from typically under-represented minorities. This has been the case in the past and will continue to be the case in the future.


Demand #4: Full Disclosure. Audiologists should be required to explain the four international documents and their positions on the language and cultural rights of Deaf people. Also, they need to explain the recalls (both voluntary and involuntary) and risks associated with cochlear implants and Auditory-Verbal Therapy (AVT) programs. (Relates to EHDI’s National Goal #5)


Most audiologists who do diagnoses for infants and young children do not work for either the federal government or for state-based EHDI programs. Thus, it is impossible to mandate what they say or do not say to parents. I agree with you however, that all health-care providers who work with families of children who are deaf or hard of hearing should provide families with complete, objective, and relevant information that will help the family make informed decisions about the care and education of their child. State-based EHDI programs are in a position to educate health care providers and to encourage them to provide appropriate information. I hope your organization will work with state-based EHDI programs to help them understand what kind of information is needed by parents. Please understand that Federal agencies may not impose additional administrative requirements except those that have been codified in regulations published in the Federal Register or are provided in authorized Congressional language.


Demand #5: Confidential Information and Genetic Research. AFA calls upon EHDI to guarantee that information about Deaf children and their families will not be used for collecting genetic information beyond consults with the families. EHDI will not support financially nor in terms of information sharing any research related to genetic engineering. (Relates to EHDI’s National Goal #6).


To the best of my knowledge, the MCHB and CDC programs that are supporting EHDI initiatives have never collected genetic information about children who are deaf or hard of hearing. All grantees must comply with all federal and state laws and privacy regulations dictated by HIPAA, FERPA and IDEA.

It is possible that the proceeding information will make a face-to-face meeting unnecessary. But, if you would still like to meet, and can do so on Saturday afternoon or evening, please let us know as soon as possible so that we can secure a room and arrange for an interpreter. We hope you are planning to participate in the 2012 National EHDI meeting so we can all work together to continue to improve EHDI programs.

Sincerely,

Karl White

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Now this begs the question. Did AFA understand Karl's letter from January? If they did, why then did they stage a protest rally at EHDI's conference in St. Louis?

And since it happened I am left with no option but to wonder if these AFA leaders were scholarly intelligent enough to understand his letter. To be honest with you I have doubts about that and I meant no offense to anybody. However based on what Karl White tried to explain in that letter I just can not envision a protest rally happening afterwards.

There seem to be only two remaining possible explanations left. One, they didn't understand the letter so they rallied a protest anyway. Two, they understood the letter but did not know how else to contribute so they rallied a protest anyway.

Personally, I have known these AFA leaders for close to four years now. Each time I tried discuss various matters with them they would avoid it at all cost. They booted me out of DBC because I was a natural strategist and a critic. They walked out of DeafVideo.tv because they could not tolerate people who saw things differently. They walked out of DeafRead.com because they didn't like the openness of dialogues that took place there. Come to think of it, these AFA leaders has refused to debate directly with many of us. Instead they would run into their own blog sites, which gave them the desired control, allowing for statements that favored their view and blocking statements that didn't.

They're using the same tactics here with EHDI by protesting around the buildings and refusing to participate as a registered agent. The truth seem to boil down to their deficiencies in understanding and using academic languages rather than using their social language, that of protesting.

Think about it, people with academic language deficiencies relies heavily on their social language, that of protesting. Is it the reason why AFA leaders were afraid of participating in these EHDI meetings? Your thoughts on that?

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  1. Hi Barry,

    It is no excuse, someone like myself who is considered a below the average English spoken can understand the last sentence that Karl White has offered:-

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    We hope you are planning to participate in the 2012 National EHDI meeting so we can all work together to continue to improve EHDI programs.

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    I asked myself why cant they see that wonderful opportunity. I doubt it has to do with their deficiencies in understanding. It has to do with their hoping that their name being famous. It is disgusted to see that Karl White offered so much for them to decline that opportunity. I believe it has to do something else. Like "look at me mom, see what I did".

    I can image what Karl White was thinking.

    Thank you for sharing, more truths comes out AFA, more we know about them. They will need to go.

    Cavvy

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  2. Hi Cavvy. Glory and fame might be one of their motivational factor. Regardless I think they are running out of excuses.

    Remember what Dawn told me some time ago about the clash between social language and academic language? That made me think of EHDI and AFA. Rallying a protest is quite typical for those who are incapable of understanding and using academic language. I'm beginning to believe that is what was happening with AFA.

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  3. AFA thought that EHDI is a government body as seen in Demand #1?

    Holy mackerel.

    Again, this is proof positive that AFA received the letter from Karl and was given the opportunity to contribute at the EHDI conference.

    But they didn't and instead protested. Embarrassing if you ask me.

    Also, Gallaudet University were one of the stakeholders at the 2012 EHDI conference, too.

    http://www.gallaudet.edu/clerc_center/clerc_center_presents_at_early_hearing_detection_and_intervention_conference.html

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  4. Yeah Mike. Not long ago Deaf Pundit made reference to EHDI as a Federal funded entity. I was grateful when I read that letter because it answered a lot of our questions. And yes, one more proof to show that AFA was in communication with Karl White / EHDI. This happened in January, which gave them plenty of time to register for the meeting in St. Louis. Didn't happen. Embarrassing.

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  5. Hi Barry,

    Yes, I remember that. It tells in volume. Karl White even offered a secured room and an interpreter.

    You are right, it is all about glory and fame is what AFA are targeting.

    it is sick to my stomach.

    Cavvy

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  6. Mind boggling.

    You're right, they either didn't read or didn't understand it.

    I wonder if they're just being ridiculously stubborn. We've seen how collaboration is a hard thing for them to do.

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  7. Thanks for sharing, Barry.

    I am interested in the 15% of the presentations that were rejected (over 85% were accepted)..and if Deaf Pundit's count of 124 is accurate..it means approximately 19 submissions were rejected.

    Nonetheless, the letter clearly shows that the AFA was given ample opportunity to voice their concerns. Every one of their demands was answered in a reasonable manner. Karl White even said that he believed that parents of deaf children should be informed about ASL as an option and INVITED everyone to improve the EHDI process in a constructive manner. Like someone above said..it's an opportunity. I also found it interesting that Karl White mentioned that EHDI had no control of how audiologists steered parents of deaf children.

    My biggest problem with the whole thing was the "Kill the heretic" vibe absent facts. I like facts before I join an angry mob....just saying...(shrugs)

    In addition, if AFA cannot convince me as a deaf person...then their mission is not going to work for other people...

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  8. Barry Thank you for sharing Karl's letter for us to read. I agree with Willy that Karl offered AFA to join EDHI conference.

    Your previous blog mentioned about Patti Durr talked with someone at the hotel and she turned around and lied to deaf group saying "they cannot let us in, they audism me and you" to get deaf group agitated.

    It was good thing, there was no violence.

    There are a few deaf people who are not well educated who also have emotional issues and/or anger. I am concerned next time violence will occur.

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  9. JJ:

    Karl said, "I agree that every family with a child who is deaf or hard of hearing should know that ASL is an appropriate option for communicating with their child." The word "option" for parental decision is a crucial key word but this won't satisfy AFA, DBC, DHF and anybody else in that camp. That much is clear. We saw that exact same resistance in the AB2072 brouhaha.

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  10. Thanks, Barry for all that you do to support our unique community. One thing I noticed is Dr. Karl used the big D in the word "deaf." I still cringe to this day whenever I see D, especially from non-D communities. It says a lot how influential those militants or extremists are. However, with people like you and me and our unique community, we can dismiss the D as much as we can. It's all English grammar or syntax rules.
    ~ Renée J.

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    1. Hi Renée,

      That is what I also puzzled that Karl used big D in this letter, that shows he respect our culture. I doubt that AFA noticed that.

      Cavvy

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  11. Interesting...from my experience of reading government contracts, distinctions are always made on what federal agency is the contractor, what program the contract is under, SOW's, terms, etc.

    I feel that maybe AFA didn't quite understand the language that Karl White used-- it is somewhat like gov't-speak. As he is in contact with many levels of govn't, it's the way Karl is used to communicating. At least he didn't use acronyms, which would have made understanding more difficult, lol.

    AFA and other grassroot deaf organizations don't have ppl who have experience with this gov't-speak and who can interpret it correctly. It takes a learning curve to know how certain agencies "talk". Unfortunately it falls on the would-be contractor or presentation candidate to learn this. Big bro' ain't gonna take the time to teach ya. "Deaf card" won't cut it. The federal gov't works with minorities and enforces percentages of contracts to go to minorities, for example. And there's plenty of competition even there.

    Opportunity beckons, but at least it's with EHDI, which is a PROGRAM, not a federal agency, and that should be a heck of a lot easier to qualify a presentation for than trying to land a federal contract.

    Ann_C

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    1. Beautifully explained. That was what I was referring to as academic language, something AFA leaders clearly don't understand. Think about it. AFA and DBC fought against all of the legislative bills that were introduced. Some of them were favorable to their causes but yet because they didn't seem to understand the "gov't speak" language they balked and staged protest rallies. Take AB 2072 of California as an example. This bill would have included ASL as one of the communication option but they didn't want it. The bill got thrown out and now there is no mention of ASL in the law. How is that good for their cause?

      And then upon reading Karl's letter to AFA, I had doubts they (AFA leaders) were capable of interpreting it properly. This, the protest rally took place. A total embarrassment.

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    2. Hi Ann,

      I enjoyed reading yours, but I notice that you feel that AFA quite do not understand. I solely disagreed because in last paragraph. Karl White has already offered very highly opportunity for them to join and even offered a secure room with interpreter.

      That is where AFA can sit down and ask the questions on this letter.

      AFA ought to be more of professional manner and since they did not do so.

      Cavvy

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  12. I noticed that too Renee. Karl used big "D" and I figured why. Unlike me, he has class. No, I'm just kidding. I've got class too but I get to choose what I'd prefer because I'm deaf. Karl demonstrated respect when he wrote that letter. This much is clear. From my previous conversations with him I can vouch for this guy. He's a very nice gentleman who really listens. He cares. I'm confident he'd call me deaf as opposed to Deaf if he knew it was my preference but I am not going to put the burden on him. He already has enough weight on that shoulder.

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  13. Yes Deb. I'm equally as concerned about how AFA and their leaders managed to mislead and manipulate the so called "not too intelligent" deaf people. Some of them have emotional and behavior history. It's like carrying a time bomb, not knowing when or where one might blow up and harm somebody. AFA is so reckless in how they stage protest rallies. I worry for other people's safety.

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  14. You are welcome J.J. The credit goes to people who have been forwarding me with information. I feel like a clearing house as I receive them. Ha ha... I guess it happens because people know what I'd do with the information if I see something rather important. Believe me, I would not have anything to blog about if it were not for these insider informants.

    And yes, you highlighted all the same things that struck me as positive. An opportunity. It's just unfortunate how AFA choose to move their pawns. Oh well. Thanks for stopping by.

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  15. Barry, that was fascinating! thanks for a most informative blog. I learned a lot about what EHDI actually is. Ann_C, I interpreted EHDI to be not a program, but simply the conference itself. If I understood correctly, NCHAM, of which Dr. White is the director, is the host of the EHDI conference. Individuals and organizations who have an interest in early hearing detection and intervention attend the meeting: medical doctors of various specialties, audiologists, educators, counselors, social workers, developmental psychologists, speech therapists, and so on. Any deaf person can register and attend the meeting.

    if AFA is sincere in wanting to promote ASL/English bilingualism and involve deaf people in the EHDI process, what they need to do is establish relationships with their state's EHDI providers. NCHAM provides a most helpful website that should give them all the info they need to get started, including how to apply for grants. In California, it's here: http://www.infanthearing.org/states/california/index.html

    It would be great if AFA, DBC, and DHF could join forces with effective leaders from Gallaudet University and NAD. I do agree with at least one of their aims, that teaching ASL to deaf babies is a good idea. As successful deaf people who use ASL, we need to do all that we can to make sure parents are aware that it is an option. Dr. Karl White offered a golden opportunity to sit at the table and contribute. In his letter, he came across as a reasonable, kind, and welcoming person.

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  16. "NCHAM is one of the grantees and receives funding from MCHB to serve as the National Technical Assistance Resource Center for EHDI Programs." This only reinforces the fact that I learned at the EHDI meeting that it is actually the state level EHDI programs that matters the most and thats where the deaf stakeholders should be looking to get involved with.

    Now it is not my intention here to say I told you so to those that disagreed with my previous statements on the EHDI but only that it needed to be brought forth to help others realize that it is the state level EHDIs that we want to pay attention to and get involved with.

    Onto another point, (this is not directed at you personally, but here for everyone else to read) while I do realize that this is a very sensitive issue to many people, I also believe that what makes this even more sensitive if the fact that people may mock or berate those that do not agree with their view. This is what, in my own opinion, actually increases the tension or friction between different people, organizations, or parties and they may perceive it as a form of disrespect. I'll admit that i've been guilty of that in the past, but when I think about it, this is exactly what leads to bullying or cyber-bullying which makes the problem worse. Granted, we may not be able to stop everyone, but we can certainly not stoop to their levels ;)

    If we all can only try to show respect at all times, and by that I am not saying that you can't disagree, but you can always respectfully disagree and try to educate others, which is exactly what you did with this letter, as its going to educate others and I genuinely thank you for posting this letter.

    But if you are going to follow that up with continuing to point out the actions or mistakes or whatnot of any other individuals or organizations, its likely going to lead to respect being tossed out the door and more deaf people remain divided.

    Bottom line, the best way we can actually impact the state level EHDI programs, among other areas, is if we make a unified effort where we all are on the same page with our own preferences, yet respecting other people's preferences. If most of the hearing people can do that at EHDI, at least that was what I saw at the EHDI Meeting, then there is no reason why deaf people cannot.

    Unity among the deaf community is what is sorely needed to make changes for the better overall for deaf people, but ahhh i can only dream cant I?

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  17. oh and one more thing Barry, next year's EHDI Meeting is practically in your backyard, its in Phoenix.

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  18. Valhallian, I appreciate you sharing your feelings and thoughts in this thread. Thank you. I agree with everything you said however you are going to have to understand something here.

    I have zero political interest in this matter. Oh, I don't even know why I'm v/blogging on this subject. I am probably the only person here, except for perhaps Mike, that has zero vested interest in the outcome. Unlike you, I do not work in any of these professional fields that serve deaf / hearing impaired / hard of hearing people. I do not work with deaf children. I do not provide any type of services for deaf people. My enterprises / business ventures has never depended on deaf population for our market.

    So for an obvious reason I'm not treading carefully. Call that reckless if you like but I have absolutely no political motivation here. Absolutely none at all. I tell things as I see them. Now that does not mean I'm being insensitive. It does not mean I'm mocking or berating others who might not agree with my views. Yes it might increases the tension or friction between different people but you are referring to people who actually have vested interest in the outcome, such as yourself.

    When I started v/blogging I demonstrated respect for everybody. Many times it was never returned and yet many of you never said anything. As a result I've been jaded and rightfully so.

    Naturally it'd probably be different if I had vested interests in the outcome, like you, but I don't. Having said that I'm not going to change my style of v/blogging. I will continue to point out the obvious for others if they can't see it themselves. If it leads to further deterioration of respect then so be it.

    I hear of this unity song often but it's the opposite of what we really need. We need diversity. There is unity in diversity. I don't think very many people understand that.

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  19. Sometimes an alternative overview sees things as they really are. You don't need an vested interest to see a very obvious problem. Unfortunately it seems my blog has suffered the fate of AFA ire lol as deaf.read has removed it ?

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  20. MM, that does not surprise me. Two of DeafRead's main editors sympathizes with AFA leaders.

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  21. It is not my position to state whether or not you have or should have a vested interest in this or have political motivations. Nevertheless, you still have brought forth good information and I do commend you for that.

    As for my vested interest, it should be made clear that when I blog or comment under this name, that has always been in my individual capacity and not professional capacity. That being the case, the vested interest here is in my individual capacity, and I do want to see every new parent of a deaf newborn to be fully informed in this case, as opposed to being partially informed. Whatever option they choose after being fully informed, I will always support and respect their decision.

    You are absolutely correct that in order for unity to work, diversity is indeed needed, and that also includes acknowledging and respecting all communication options when it comes to the deaf community.

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    1. Thank you Valhallian. As for separation of professional and individual capacities, I understand where you are coming from and I appreciate that when I see it. However, I was leaning more towards people's financial interests in this matter. How many of you (v/bloggers & commenters) do not have any financial interests (none whatsoever) in this matter? I mean, as a professional or as a service provider or a business owner that caters to deaf people, deaf children and parents of deaf children?

      I'll be frank about it. There are not very many of you that are actually without financial interest in this matter. I am one of the very few individual who has absolutely nothing to gain or lose from it. That is what I was trying to get at. Those that have at least some financial interest in this matter have always asked me to tone things down, which is understandable. However their financial interests is the least of my concern.

      So what am I worried about? You might ask. My primary and probably the sole concern here is the damage that is being done by ignorant culturally Deaf people. Damage? That's right. I've run into hearing people (perfect strangers) who were afraid (very afraid) of deaf people in general because they have seen or heard some of the nasty things the big 'D" society managed to spill into the media world. Deaf President Now! Audism this! Audism that! AG Bell! EHDI! Karl White! Ethnic cleansing!

      I'm here to put an end to this ignorance and stupidity by exposing them for what they really are.... a group of unappreciative and hand-me-down people who are always going to feel sorry for themselves no matter what you give them. I have zero tolerance for this type of whining.

      Thanks for understanding.

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  22. After reading this letter by EHDI, they (AFA) took the wrong plane ticket with a destination to nowhere.

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  23. mr.red juice

    AFA should go to moon as settle as moon colonization as Newt Gingrich 's next project if he win the election for US President. so AFA won't bother us any more.

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    1. AFA, moon, Gingrich... a pretty good combination!

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    2. I think they should all follow Putin to Mars. Frankly, if they had their own autonomous country (on a different planet), they wouldn't have to demand that the rest of society conform to their needs. Why? Because the rest of society, deaf and hearing, lives on Earth, where people learn how work together on a give-and-take basis.

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  24. Some of you claim that the Federal legalese went over the heads of the AFA types. I would argue that they understood it all. After all, some of them are even PhDs with fancy-schmancy university degrees! It was that they simply CHOSE to obfuscate it in order to get the base all riled up. Their past behavior has demonstrated that. I mean, come on - hiding letters that show a willingness to reach out?

    Between those who say AFA's actions were born of ignorance and those who say that they were born of malice, I would incline towards the latter.

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  25. That! (for B.BarNavi). Hiding letters that show a willingness to reach out. That's the bomb here. Thanks for stopping by.

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  26. I believe AFA's actions contained both ignorance and malice.

    If it's true that AFA leaders hid Karl's letter from the base membership, then that would be malice, but chances are that they chose to IGNORE the letter and went the protest route anyway. AFA chose not to work with "the system".
    Ironically they still remain the outsiders looking in and they won't learn much about how to work with state EHDI resources in order to promote ASL/bilingualism and reduce audistic behavior.

    Some AFA ppl have shown ignorance of governmental process, calling EHDI a federal agency, when it it is actually a program under the national aegis of the U.S. Dept. of Health and Human Services, a federal agency. That's just one example of not understanding govn't-speak.

    The real malice is that AFA leaders have long demonized Karl White and the EHDI program to the point that they don't see the man who has spent much of his life to help the federal government establish EHDI programs state by state so that babies can have their hearing screened by 3 months, and if hearing loss is detected, the child can be started quickly on a path of language acquisition, be it LSL or ASL. There were few such screening programs before the 1990's, a need that was long overdue, and the EHDI program is addressing that need.

    Ann_C

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  27. The Holism- I'm a person in the medical field who has also learned some basic awkward but sometimes functional signing-3 years worth, but am rarely in environments offering good practice to keep up skills. I'm also someone who encourages exposure to parent knowledge about all communication routes including CIs with AVT. After seeing the extremists posts, I started thinking- to hell with giving any more time to improving my ASL skills. If they don't respect parents or children with learning environments different from what worked for them, than I won't bother.
    Glad your posts helped remind me of the other Deaf community that understands that influence starts with respect. I respect your contributions and common sense approach to working with these culturally changing times- I will recommit to getting a little bit better with my sign fluency. You are right about extremism driving people away from, rather than towards improved understanding.

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